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    Nutrition & Diet

    I have researched several sources about what a good nutritional african grey diet should be. Of course this is the basics and you can always get more detailed for your own greys specific needs but here is what I found.

    It is a large VARIETY made up of vegetables, fruits,nuts, seeds and pellets and people foods (not in any particular order) in most cases will give you a healthy grey with a sufficent diet.

    Fresh Vegetables are best or Frozen Vegetables such as string beans,spinach, peas, broccoli, snow peas other green veggies, peppers, zucchini, corn, carrots, cooked pinto, lima and other beans provide a good source of protien. Green veggies have the most nutrition in them. (This is just a small basic list but you should get the idea)

    Pellets provide alot of vitamins, minerals and proteins that your grey may not get otherwise if your bird is a picky eater or doesn't like veggies.

    Fruits are high in sugar and water and should not be subsituted for vegetables. It is better to offer your grey vegetables than fruits. Fruits can be offered (and enjoyed by many greys) but do not need to make up a significant part of your greys diet and do not need to be fed daily but is a good treat. The sugars can make your grey hyper.

    Healthy People Food is good to offer your grey. Products like pasta, whole wheat breads, brown rice, oatmeal, well cooked chicken or turkey (red meat should be avoided) and other healthy people food will offer your grey other nutrients it will not get with pellets and seeds mixes alone.

    Nuts & Seeds can be a controversal topic it seems because they do not have as much nutritional value and are high in fat and can cause obesity. Many nuts also have a lot of protein in them, too which is good. My own opinion is that seeds are okay but don't give so much that they ignore the rest of their daily foods. Organically grown and Sprouted seeds are the healthiest and have the most nutritional value.

    Junk food is a no no and if you do give your grey junk food it should be done in moderation. The salts and preservatives are not good for us and they are not good for our small pets either and can cause health issues over a period of time.

    When you offer your grey fruits and vegetables make sure they are washed to get off any pesiticides/chemicals that are still on the food.

    There is no one food that will be good for your grey as it's only diet but it takes a variety of all the foods mentioned above so they get the nutrients they need. A diet of pellets, veggies, people food, nuts, seeds & fruits should be a good diet and keep your bird healthy.

    This is the diet I give my grey and feel good about it. This is a compilation of several sources of books, avian veterinary opinions, my bird food store opinions and online websites that I refered to when deciding on a diet for my grey.

    Post edited by: BaxtersMom, at: 2009/01/06 05:17<br><br>Post edited by: BaxtersMom, at: 2009/01/06 22:28

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    Re:Nutrition & Diet

    Erika, thankyou for taking the time to write this informative thread for everyone!

    Im sure everyone will find the advice you have given us really useful with our greys daily diets.

    Karma to you

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    Re:Nutrition & Diet

    hello BaxtersMom

    i'm lucky with my grey she is a baby and i can set up her Diet. but with my amazon i got him at 25. he won't eat any greens. i have tried them all. so i give him the dark fruits in hopes to make up for it. he eats very lil pellets should i be worried? the vet said i should get him on all pellets but he just won't do it.

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    Re:Nutrition & Diet

    I have had a couple older parrots that weren't used to eating pellets when I got them so I know how hard it can be. It took my eclectus about 5 months to finally start eating pellets but I was persistant because I do think it is important for them. I would encourage you to keep trying and keep on trying.

    There are a few other threads here in the bird food room on tips for the "picky eater" and Tips on how to get them to eat pellets that are worth reading. Some of the things I have tried was soaking pellets in apple juice, mixing them in with cooked oatmeal and scrambled eggs, corn bread, pancakes and other table foods and noticed that they don't realize they are in there and go ahead and eat them and finally accept them dry. It may takes several months but persistance is the key. And don't give in to them like I have done so many times:laugh:

    All my birds loved seeds and was their main diet when I got them and I think that was the problem. When I went to offer them pellets, They would eat the seeds and leave the pellets. Try giving them mostly pellets in the morning and just pinch of seeds or what ever they usually eat. Mine would of course eat the seeds first but I didn't give them alot so they had to go to the pellets if they wanted to eat more. If you put a lot of seeds in, they will get full on those and leave the pellets.

    Even your vet said he should be on pellets so I think your vet has already answered your question. If they don't get proper nutrition, just like people they can get vitamin deficiencies, lack of energy and poor feather condition & other health issues.

    I give my flock about 60-70% pellets and the other 30 to 40% is small amount of seeds, as much veggies as they will eat and some cooked human foods. Sometimes they get fruit, too but they like the veggies better.

    Just keep on trying, eventually it will happen. When I wasn't happy with the amount of pellets they ate I tried as hard as I could to give them more veggies, which sometime was a chore too cuz they would throw it out. They can be so stubborn:angry: But eventually, I got all my older adopted birds on the pellets. Don't give up<br><br>Post edited by: BaxtersMom, at: 2009/01/30 23:50

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    Re:Nutrition & Diet

    Thanks for putting this great information in the bird food room. I think a lot of new bird owners find themselves confused about just what to feed their new companions.
    I would like to add that vegetables high in vitamin A are very important for the health of our greys. Vitamin A is an important part of keeping their immune systems healthy and it is found in carrots, sweet potatoes and the orange squashes. Try offering your birds baked sweet potatoes and see what happens, my birds love it! Also, if you offer baby food, check the label and get the kind with the most vit A.
    And, yes, as BaxtersMom said, don't give up on getting your birds to try pellets. Our greys can be stubborn, hardheaded, and set in their ways. Sometimes they fear trying something new. If you keep offering pellets eventually they will try them. And their lives will be better because of it.

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    Re:Nutrition & Diet

    When I brought Baxter home I think one of the things I stressed over most was his diet. I read through so many threads and what people fed their greys, then seen so many things people said not to feed them and I got more confused than ever and that is why I thought this thread would be useful especially for the New grey owners out there that might be overwhelmed like I was:blink: I thought a basic diet plan to start off and refer to could be helpful to some and hopefully relieve a little stress. As time goes by, I know everyone gets thier food routine down but in the beginning I was lost and just wanted some simple and basic foods to give Baxter. I was told to only feed Baxter a seed mix from Walmarts by his previous owner and not untill I joined this website did I know any differenthmy: Luckily I found this site right away. So I do hope this thread helps. Thanks for your input.

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    Re:Nutrition & Diet

    Thanks so much for the information! Like you said BaxtersMom it is all so overwhelming! I've been taking notes as I read things but then people disagree on a lot of diet options and it just gets more confusing. I can see myself bookmarking this page :P

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    Nutrition & Diet

    Thanks so much for compiling this info and sharing!

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    i have a 4 month old african grey she's eat seed diet and i also feed her fruits and vegetables and i also feed her what i make for dinner but i'm afraid that there are things that she might be missing in her diet and i don't want her to start developing bad habits. i confuse on what to feed her i would like to put her on a pellet diet but does it have everything in that pellet that they reguire for there diet like protein, caluium fruits and vegetables i just want to make sure i am feeding her the right food can anyone please tell me

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    just got my guys from tidy mix (seeds) to pretty bird had to add orange juice to make them eat it but going great so far! also they have veg and fruit most of it goes on the cage floor little swines!

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