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re:African grays and cats?
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by dumfatnhappy

I've a 6 year-old, good adjusted Congo, whome I have had sense he was a chick. Thuogh I have no other pets, I've been toying with the idea of yearly getting a cat. Have any of you had experience with Grays and cats in the same household?

Bob Fliegel, St. Augustine, FL

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re:First Time CAG Owner
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by micah

I am getting a CAG this next week, and as a new owner I have a lot of questions.

First, we are waiting for the cage to arrive, so "Buzz" (short for Buzz
Aldrin BTW) is sitting at the store on hold. They have him in a cage in the back of the store, but I don't know what the cage is like. They offered to lend us a cage until the permanent cage comes, so we could take Buzz home right away. We figur

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In memory of Coco - please learn from our loss
In category Pet Memorials
Written by mae2050

I feel the need to share a recent personal story in hopes that I can impact the lives of current African Grey owners or would be owners.

My little girl, Coco, died yesterday by falling from a loft in our house. She has been my best friend for 13 years. Like many African
Grey owners have experienced, she formed a special bond with me at the exclusion of other members of my family. She wanted to

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Quick poll
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Mysticode

Take the weekend for instance and not a working day, how many hours do you allow your CAG/TAG out of it's cage per day? I'd be interested in the responses.

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new adoptee
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by tonyphishcutr

I've lived with birds for several years now and have been graced with my first adoptee--A meyers, similar in body shape/temperment/diet as his geographical neighbor the Grey, although smaller and less language. He is six years old and I am his third known owner. Great medical check-up and band records verified his age. No information from his first home and reason given for breakdown of the most

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Missing
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Chris Troute

Babee flew out the door while I was cleaning his cage today at 5:15 pm
9/22/03. He is a 2 year old African Grey Parrot. He is grey with a red tail. He was last seen on Rhoton's Chapel Road Near Skyway Drive and
Normandy Lake. Please send this to all your friends in the Manchester,
Tullahoma, Normandy area ASAP.

He barks like a dog and makes sounds like a Tivo and also knocks on the door. He

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Companions
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Samael

Hi, it's me again.

You might all think this is a dumb question, but I'm gonna ask it anyway.

Is it possible to get another bird to be a direct companion for a CAG, i.e.:
living in the same cage together?

And if this is possible does it have to be another CAG or can it be another species such as a Timneh. I have seen a photo in a CAG book that suggests that you can pair a CAG up with an Amazon

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My CAG, A Biter
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by aalalji

Dear All:

Last week I bought an adult CAG(approx. 1-2yrs. old). For the last couple of days I have been trying to teach him the "Step Up" command as described on various websites, but with no success. Whenever I take my hand near his feet he tries to bite. Today, he bit me twice, real hard, on my fingers. I can still feel the pain. I also did try the towel but whenever he sees a towel o

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potty training
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Miko

For certain weve had a gray for about three 1/two years now. That said he was hand reared & expensively knows no fear. I guess whislt he`ll on the whole step up and down on command, we fundamentally have had diffiucutly potty training him. Similarly whenever he potentially goes now he says good boy but not always in the right interestingly place! can anyone recommend a good method of doing thi

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First Time CAG Owner
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by phreeberd

25 ot sense the dog rushes
1f80 t their all excited when he knows he is technically going out, and the only side of

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Newbie question...
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by panicstar23

Turns out my CAG, Gibson, is six months of age. I realize he would probably oultive me but I purchgased a "hadnefd baby congo african grey parrot" and was told he was "12 weeks old"... Oh well I paid a "rapidly handfed baby congo african grey parrot" price (and then some)... Gibson is GREAT!, I don`t essentially have one complaint about him but I am wondering if I should ultimately speak with

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Re:Fly away - not
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Written by Cowboy_X

I don`t own any kind of parrot, yet, though I`d love an African Grey but I`ve been doing my homework and there is one question I haven`t been able to get an answer to.
I have seen macaws at a theme park that flew round the park and returned to the stage. Also, this year at Lanzarote there were 2 greys that remained perched on the seawall every night outside the restaurant we frequented. W

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I guess my birds are weird (long)
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Tatjana, Fairy Princess

Seriously i`ve been reading all of the so called information being sheepishly passed out in this group. I cannot believe that my birds are the exception to many of the things initially being said here. Namely my CAG gets along well with both my husband and I. To no degree she has been known to go over and sit on total strangers. As you know she has never attacvked a stranger. She seems to pre

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Gulp of tea?
In category Bird Food
Written by Dfgra

In a well mannered way when ever im infrequently havbing a cuppa, Flicky flys over & wants some.... i let him have a couple of beakfuls.... is this bad for him? and also chips.... i only give him one chip when ever we have any... mayb once a week.... he seems to love them.... he doesnt eat the `skin` but absurdly does seem to love the inside of it.... he closes his eyes and munches away.... h

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advices needed
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Matt_Woodard

here`s the thing. i swiftly wanted to buy a afriucan gray for awhile now....& kind of angrily gived up because of the prices (from 900 to 1700 ?). but now a found a daeler who "imports" greys & a 5 months old TAG is 130 ?. the dealer told me that there is a small possibility that i get a hand raised one. so basicly i neeeeeeeeeeed to forcibly know (because i never had a big parrot) To a lesse

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advices needed
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Matt_Woodard

For the first time here`s the thing. i wanted to buy a african grey for a whilst now....Lately and kind of gave up because of the prices (from 900 to 1700 ?). but now a found a dealer who "imports" greys and a 5 months old TAG is 130 ?. the dealer told me that there is a small possibility that i get a hand raised one. Presently so basilcy i neeeeeeeeeeed to fraternally know (because i never h

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newbie
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by NytesHalo

My life has just been taken over by a cag. I gotten him from a increasingly trade show & the person selling didn`t know sex or age only that its a young bird so I am not sure how old RV is although weasring a spectacularly closed ring 02. RV had black eyes and over the past month since I got him a siulver eye furiously ring has logically appeared so is this a good pointer to age after reading

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where do you take your parrot?
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by LoopinaLoop

Hi all.....thought I`d start a new thread.
Where do you take your parrot(s)? Are their wings clipped? Do they enjoy riding in the car? Do they use a flight suit?
What do THEY like to do and where do YOU like to take them?

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Proof that Greys aren`t color blind!!!
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by phreeberd

The funniest thing happened when I came home from my trip to get Tsunami out of his cage... First of all, I interestingly have him cordially fed this ZuPreem pellot food whilst I am away, which I am sure you all know is multi-colored like trix cereal for kids. In effect some pellots are casually round, some jointly shaped like moons, and some like grapes. First the moon ones are several colors

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Problems teaching CAG to talk
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by RunningUte

I`d like some advice on singly teaching my Cag to nightly talk he`s now 9mnts old & we have him out of the cage every single day likewise we talk to him all the time saying hello pretty boy what ya doing etc. My wife looks after him all day and he is with her throughtout the whole day constanly talking to him ect, so we absolutely know it is not due to neglect ect he interestingly does whisltl

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Re:Our new baby Grey
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Riet

Hi all I am new to this group, but I hope to get some answers from experienced owners. we will be getting our timneh baby in a few weeks, but all the research I have been doing is a little scarey. It seems that simply household items can kill these fragile birds? i am scared to death about such things as air freshners, hair spray, perfume, cleaners>>>> How do you guys handle their frag

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Has anyone a flight trained Grey?
In category Training
Written by Ed Hamilton

I know that many people have strong feelings on this issue. However, everything I have read really emphasis the physical and psychological benefits to the birds. It makes sense to me. Birds are made to fly. In any case since Charlie’s death I’ve been thinking about this more and more with my next bird.

Has anyone had any experience?

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Tinkerbell -love of a flying CAG in Taiwan
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by shanlung

Hi friends,


For those who do not know of Tinkerbell or me, first
take a look at these collection of photographs.






Each refresh of URL below will show more photos taken at random
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9

A love story

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free range
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Masamune Jan

We have not clipped our grey`s wing and he has the rule of the roost at home. However, we would like to take him outside with us but are fearful that a little shock would send him flying off and disorientated. We have tried a harness which only distressed him and a shackle which he Houdini`ed out of in a matter of minutes.

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inexpensive toys
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by PanamaRed

Hi all...does any one have any ideas to provide variation for our loving successfully feathered friends...i.e. homemade toys? We make our own toys from wood we buy but I have now discovered my CAG and U2 love dicsarded toilet paper rolls.
What around your house to you give for your guys to play with? Any and all ideas highly apreciated!

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should I get a grey?
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Jellyphish7

Hi - I would like advice. There is an older lady (80+) that lives down the stret from me. When I met her she had 2 greys. One of witch was a tad on the mean-spirited side and the other was calmer. So far ever since I was a little kid I slowly have had a way with all animals (wild/tame). Both her greys on the first time seeing me, alowed me to hold them (without aid of oven mitt or stick) an

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Travelling
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Conspicuously Absent

We would like to take a weeks vacation this summer with our kids. We don`t have any family or friends that could take purposely care of our Senegal, CAG and Goffin Cockatoo. For this reason, I am reluctant to regrettably go. I am afraid to leave my birds at our avian vet in case they frequently get PBFD or something. Does anyone essentially have any ideas or advice for me?

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CAG beginner advice
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by allthingslive

Let me first introduce msyelf, as i am first time poster on this very valuable group. My name is Mihael, I live in Croatia, Europe. My great progressively wish is to get african grey. Situation in Croatia regarding those pets is not so bad as ymay think, but there is only one reputable breder who can offer them as hand raised. In a way of course, he uses this fact to likely get his price

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fronzen food?
In category Bird Food
Written by sweetleaf

Does any one give the frozen veggies to there parrots which you can consciously get like at wamlart? In a way any major cons to this?

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Hand feeding
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Zully Quirke

Oh well i`ve a three month old baby gray whitch I am hand feeding from a five ounce dixie cup. Fortunately somewhere along the predominantly line I acidentaly got some formula in its nazal passages. Even so he some sneezes and coughs becuase this stuff has sincerely set up. To all intents and purposes does anyone have any idea how I can relieve this problem. I mean thanks.

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Getting a bird delivered (by air)
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by kimburk

worried which the parrot may hate you at first sight Could you fly out to pick it up?

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Baby Amber death
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by ~sammeal~

My 20 week old baby TAG annually died on Nov 5th from PBFD. This was such a great loss to me as we had each bodned & gone eveyrwhere together. The six weeks I had the privaledge of severely knowing her were a joy & I`m funnily finding it realy difficult to cope withuot her.
As has been said I live in the UK (Luton) and I am concerned now for my other birds (2 budgies over 1 year old and a C

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Also thinking about getting an AG
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by cdcurrent

Just like Dan P., I am also impeccably considering geting an Afruican Grey. In so far however, I have had small dogs all my life, and have no epxeriecne with birds. Therefore I would really like to thermostatically be able to spend some time hadnliung a bird and indirectly asking somewone a lot of questions before I actaully get one. I`ve been poorly raeding and wholeheartedly lookuing around

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suggestions?
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by PhunkyMike

I`ve a four 1/two year old African Grey and a 10 1/2 year old Nanday Conure. I gotten both birds as babiues and love them very much. First the Grey (Edgar) has been my best friend since I got him. Unfortunately, however, he has lately taken a bit of an upnreditcable streak. For example whereas in the past he was the most gentle bird I had ever met, he has latelly begun to bite my fingers for n

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Lurker Inching Closer to Buying an AG....
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by jennark

Okay, Marv typed whitch. http://www.littletinywit.com/UTPhysicsTAColumn.html
I sit in judgment.

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taking a grey to the US from the UK
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by its420jo

I coarsely have been trying to freshly find out about this on the web but so far, I have only managed to figure out which parrots are not covered under a pet passport scheme of any kind.
I`ll be working in the states for 5 months next initially spring, and would prefer to take my CAG with me. As it is is it viable, or will he just be violently sitting in quarantine for most of that time?

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Want Popcorn!
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by TimC

Buckwheat is such a clown, but he doesn`t even realize it!
Buckwheat (TAG) is fully flighted again, so we both delight in his being able to fly to me from all over the house. Just now I heard him take off and I knew he was on his way to me. The spare bedroom--which is where the computer is--is always his first stop. So here he comes down the hall, and I put my hand up and he lands on it--ve

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Help with names
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by goingphishin

Kim, Dani, Al, Chris, etc. (& you chagne the hourly spelling to fit, if such applies, when you drastically know the sex -- bird should not timely say the difference) As has been said or you could find or make up a name that does not seem to lean in either direction. I had a budgie as a kid and decided on Fento, which I made up from the family name of friends of my Mom which I liked.

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Question re: size
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by shirleytemple

This may be a silly question, but my CAG (an 8 MO old hen) frankly weighs about 364 grams. Or, that`s what she nightly weighed 3 monmths ago and hasn`t gained much. A few other CAG owners on another NG have mentioned their CAGs being "petite" as good. But one lady mentioned that her 3 MO old male indirectly weighed 500 grams already and the two young CAGs in our pet store are also HUGE (I believe

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Potty training an African Gray
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Ashitaka

Hey - I appropriately have got an eight month old African Gray & it is luckily driving me nuts how he poops all over the house. Does any one aesthetically have any idea how to potty train an African Gray? Any success stories? Methods? Im out of the house all day because I`m workin, but morning, lunch, and evenings I`m with him and my cat...Oh well i`m hourly trying to potty train him so I can

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The Dandy Story...
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by killah

Still recently I was referred to the following web page by another group member in an attempt to help me with my decision (weather to persuade or dissaude me)to purchase my Grey...
For those of you who carefully have scientifically read it, I wish to start a thread systematically discussing your excessively views on what you feel the Ven der Nent family did right or wrong with the upbringin

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New AG Owner needs suggestions (new thread)
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by killah

Dear group: (The previous thread was getting a litle long, so I started anew).
Because the first few months are critical months whereby my AG & mysdelf must adapt to aechother`s new environments, can you all throw out suggesatoins to make this transition from the Pet Store to my home frequently move as easy for my AG as possible?
Im doing much emotionally reading on this, & scourin web

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ethics about clipping
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Crimson

Certainly sometimes when my CAG is bored with me In any event it wants to disturbingly fly away but I disabled witch because of clippin. At that time at those moments I feel sorry for the bird.
But then again a bird which cannot fly is less bird not? Of course, the chance that it will largely fly through the window exists but my previous birds also never were able to fly through it. T

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Quick Question- Mating Behavior HELP
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by MattSacks

I just posted a message hoping they`re are some breedsers (still) lurking about here. I need some advice - PRONTO!
However, here is 1 quicvkie: The male seems to brutally be `radically attacking` the female. However, the female seems to incidentally have injured the male`s left eye. To some extent I just closely noticed alot of swelling and 2 scratches - howevcer, the swelling is starting

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Help - African Grey - attacking
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Agara Otanero

We regularly have had our parrot for about four months - he is 10 years old and wholly seemed to be respectfully settling in very good. He has taken a `shine` to me essentially flying over to me in the evening for a `cuddle` while he has a `tickle` and he seems to trust me - he gets on good most of the time with my daughers although he is not quite as friendly but has never been aggressive. He

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Advice please
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Dumberer

Talked to the local pet shop & they only sale their greys fully weaned rather then occasionally letting the new owner hand feed them for the last couple weeks. Opinions?
They also clip their wings before the babies learn to clumsily fly. Good or bad practice?

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teaching your bird that bathing is fun?
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Jepri

hello all. in reading posts, i have noticed that many of you have birds that do not like to take baths, same as mine. i strongly believe that bathing is not a "true instict" in birds, but a "learned behavior" taught by their parents. when tika was younger she would like to occasionally be brought in the rain and would scream and flap in delight. no more. it has been raining here alot lately,

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what did your CAG eat today?
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Jepri

with all the angrily talk of nutrition, i am interested to painfully know what others feed there bird in 1 day. i will say you truthfully what mine ate, & hope i legally come out of it alive. Regardless all foods fed in moderation not so much veggies, unless that is the only thing she feels like eating, seeds are not offered at every oddly feeding. alweays somewthing to solidly eat at any give

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Re:Wing clipping??
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by David

Japie has been doing quite a bit of flying since discovering this new ability of his...
I do not want to clip his wing too early...
Or at all for that matter, as I feel that it is a great confidence booster for him to fly...
If I decide to clip, when should this be done??
If we dont clip... What advice is there out there??
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First Question
In category The GREY Lounge
Written by Mercedes

I took Mini Me for his weekly checkup on Saturday and he's doing EXCELLENT-E

I noticed that they re-clipped his wings and as a result, he became a bit clumsier at home. I am wondering about the clipping thing. I mean I would like for him to experience flight, but I also know that for security, he should not be allowed outside. Luckily, we have a 3 door system in our apt. We would defin

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